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So after your computer boots, the audio starts (with all the people talking), then the screen goes all back and you can't see anything? Try booting in safe mode and running an Anti-virus.

Reliable source.

What do you mean "he will pass the bill"? I guess I don't understand since I haven't seen that speech.

Oh wow, look. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/pe...byruling/false/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/pr...promise-broken/ Yup, so biased... Please, if all you're going to say the sources are biased, then this is over. I won't be able to talk to you seriously anymore. The rest of your argument is semantics. But lets pretend, for just a moment, that universal health care was being voted on, and it was in the bill, and the government would basically control most of the health care industry. Does that make us communists? socialists? No. We'd be just like every other industrialized country in the world. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/pr...alth-care-bill/ What's that? It says, "NO ACTION". http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st...s-no-guarantee/ (Kind of a dated article)

"Down this road too many times"? I actually don't recall any government offering a public option, I may be wrong. Oh wait-Were you referring to universal health care? Well, we aren't getting universal health care and even if we were your point would be moot since you're relying on history, yet every other 1st world country offers some form of universal health care.

I agree right now is a terrible time to try to get health insurance reform done. The economy is in shambles. Regarding the 8% tax increase: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st...ployers-drop-c/

I stopped reading there. If you aren't even familiar with the health care bill, then just don't talk about it. Save yourself the trouble and embarrassment of looking like an uninformed idiot. I wish some one here actually KNEW what they were talking about so that maybe we could have an intelligent conversation. So you are a supporter of socialist communism and euthanasia? You enjoy having more government control? Don't you remember what socialist communism did in Europe with Hitler? You must be one of those people that say "Sure communism killed 100 million of people last century, but that was just because the U.S. didn't give it a chance to succeed." And you call me an idiot and claim I don't know what I am talking about? Save you petty flames for the flame board. If you can't even make a post without bashing someone then get out of this section. I know what the bill is all about. Unlike some naive liberals, I actually search into the bill and find out the things that the main stream media doesn't talk about. Here are some things that the main stream media doesn't talk about that are in the bill. From the 1,017 pages long Obama's health care reform bill. As stated by Mike Adams; Editor of the Health Ranger & NaturalNews and expert on Obama's health care reform bill You say you want to have an intellectual conversation. Please explain why these points above are good! Bashing and acting like you are doing poply, doesn't make your points any better; they do the exact opposite and hurt your argument. "So you are a supporter of socialist communism and euthanasia?" Communism and socialism are different. You've lost all credibility at the first sentence. The bill does not set up a universal health insurance so this has nothing to do with socialism. To even say the word "socialism" as if it is bad, is wrong in it's own right. We enjoy plenty of socialized services each and everyday. "You must be one of those people that say '...' "I don't know enough about communism to have a firm stance on it. But based on history, it seems like it just doesn't work. "Don't you remember what socialist communism did in Europe with Hitler? " Socialist communism? Do you mean the USSR? Well, they opposed and attacked Nazi Germany in world war 2. I think that was your question. "And you call me an idiot and claim I don't know what I am talking about?" You've demonstrated that yourself. "Unlike some naive liberals" Ooh, so THIS is what it's all about. You're not arguing because you believe the bill is wrong. You're arguing because you don't like some people with different political ideologies. This is an "Us versus Them" thing. Otherwise you would've said "naive people". Page 16: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st...place-under-re/ Page 22: I'm not even sure what this means. Page: 29: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/st...ical-treatment/ I could go on and on but it'd just be a waste of my time.

It offers a public, government run health insurance. It's basically just another health insurance company except its run by the government. If you don't want it, you won't be paying for it. Anyone can stick with their current health insurance provider. The bill also does a variety of other things such as not allow insurance companies to deny coverage for preexisting conditions, and alot of other stuff which I'm unfamiliar with. There's actually little-to-no reforming of health care, mostly health insurance.

I'm not positive, but it seems like you think the bill includes universal health care. It doesn't.

They want to kill us? Iraq couldn't have even put a dent in America, pre-invasion. But I'd rather stay on topic. You're question was asking why you were responsible for paying for other's health care when you believed that they didn't deserve it. And I asked the exact same question except asking why I was responsible for funding a war instead of funding health care. Short answer: They're taxes, it's part of having a government. But it doesn't even matter because we don't, and aren't even talking about universal health care. We're both trying to save lives here. Canada's health care system has nothing to do with the current bill that is in question. Infact, it's not even the same system. They have universal health care and the current bill offers a public option to health insurance. Nice try though. I didn't think you'd resort to personal attacks so quickly. And no; I don't go to high school. If you're going to try insulting some one, atleast make sure you're not pulling the insults straight out of your ass. Harsh taxes? Let's take a look: Oh wow, it's actually pretty low when compared to the rest of the industrialized world. If you've got more recent and up to date data, feel free to post it. I think I covered everything in your post. It's easy to talk about a subject when you're not totally ignorant about it.

I am to assume you don't support medicare? That's a rather harsh thing to say. Why should I PAY for the military to kill people in Iraq and Afghanistan? If you don't believe this entitles people to be healthy, then fine. That's your interpretation. I stopped reading there. If you aren't even familiar with the health care bill, then just don't talk about it. Save yourself the trouble and embarrassment of looking like an uninformed idiot. I wish some one here actually KNEW what they were talking about so that maybe we could have an intelligent conversation.

Neat. It really has been along time.

Almost never. If I use any acronym aside from "lol" (ro­fl, lmao, etc.) then I actually did laugh.

There's no way I could get into that kind of music. lol

I was root.

Thank you. Masterx figured out the resolution I had to make it so it wouldn't be stretched on my desktop. (The original was 3000x2000)

Did anyone expect otherwise? Blizzard is notorious for delaying games.

I can't believe I didn't get the joke the first time I saw it.

I'm just wondering what everyone would think if we removed all of the moderator positions like gaming mod, valve mod, graphics mod, etc. and instead grouped all moderators just into a group called "Moderator". Each moderator would be able to moderator the entire Ghoztcraft forums. What this would do is make things easier for everyone. Moderators will no longer be stuck with the painstaking job of trying to revive and jump start sections like the WoW section. And this will no longer leave us making the decision of whether or not a moderator is being inactive or is just stuck with a section with no activity. Basically anyone who is a moderator now will be put into this group. ACP access will still only be allowed to the most trusted moderators (maybe a 2nd tier moderator group or just moved into the admin group). Anyways, that's my proposal and let me know what you guys think.

It probably won't. I was surprised with how many people opposed it.

That's impressive viper. They must be using fiber optics. I'm jealous.

You haven't told me a problem that is exclusive to my plan.

And you apparently see a problem but won't tell me what it is.

I haven't commented on that? That's basically what my whole plan is.